Vinyl & Gel Coat Maintenance

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Vinyl & Gel Coat Maintenance

Post by liquid » Mon Aug 03, 2015 1:07 pm

Wanted to know what products and seasonal rituals people have in maintaining the interior and exterior of their boats.

I've heard 303 Aerospace protectant is widely utilized for interiors but Cobalts are unique animals and being a new owner I'm curious to hear from you guys about products and seasonal/daily maintenance.
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Re: Vinyl & Gel Coat Maintenance

Post by liquid » Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:24 am

Interesting stuff - I spoke to my Cobalt dealer and one of the guys said they use SprayNine for cleaning everything - vinyl, flooring, gelcoat - and 303 aerospace to protect the vinyl.

So then i called Cobalt directly to see what they recommend and I spoke to Rick who has been at cobalt for years. He said that all the products they've used that they found Dow bathroom cleaner works the best (scrubbing bubbles). He also said that the vinyl they use is pre-treated so they don't need all that extra protection. He recommended any quality auto wax like Mcguire's for the gelcoat...

Interesting. I'm going to get the Dow cleaner and the spray9 and see what works better for basic cleaning and I'm definitely getting the 303 for occasional treatment. I've also read about products from Boat Bling that seem to be very good as well. There are several products but I think I'll also get the Hot sauce for quick wipedowns to remove water spots after use.

***Rick also mentioned one other thing - the worst thing that can happen to vinyl is staining from sunscreen - anyone have any "safe" sunscreen suggestions for cobalt vinyl?
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Re: Vinyl & Gel Coat Maintenance

Post by jhnmdahl » Fri Aug 07, 2015 11:46 am

Great feedback - thanks for sharing your research. We have the white vinyl in our boat, and haven't noticed any sunscreen staining so far (using Coppertone sport lotion in the tapered blue bottle). I suspect that rubbing it in well before sitting would significantly help mitigate the risk, but I've heard that time in the sun eventually eliminates most sunscreen stains at least as well as vinegar, WD40, and many other common solutions. There's been some speculation that sunscreen discoloration is actually a fungus, and people have even reported success using Ortho rose fungicide to elimimate sunscreen stains on vinyl.

My local dealers also suggested that most auto products are pretty readily adaptable to boats, and I've used the same wax and cleaners on the boat as for the car. I suspect the day will come when I want to buff the hull a little rather than just wax it, and I'll look at 3M's products (or maybe just use some of the McGuire's stuff I already have) for that.

I'll have to look up the 303 and see what that's all about. It might be a nice thing to help keep the vinyl from staining as result of minor mishaps.

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Re: Vinyl & Gel Coat Maintenance

Post by liquid » Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:54 am

So as some of you may be beginning to realize I am a little OCD about researching the best products to keep things running and looking pristine.

After poking around on the internet I decided to call the guys at Boat Bling directly and spoke to Zach. He could not have been more patient or knowledgeable about the products.

My concern has centered around wetslipping my boat on the dock after the ice this winter wreaked havoc on one of our lifts (my father's 1947 Chris Craft Rocket sits on the new lift) and I didn't want any residual scum line on the boat. It's only been in the water 2 weeks and I pulled it once to give her a scrub but I want to maintain it's clean white gelcoat.

So here;s the short:

1 - Hot sauce to wipe down to get off hard water spots after each use
2 - Vinyl sauce to clean the vinyl after each use
3 - Condition sauce to UV protect after every 4 uses or a month of weekend use.

Here's a link to the packages if you're into keeping your boat detailed like I do:
http://boatbling.net/packages/

The C-Note package is great if you have a lot of Hard Water and get water spots on your boat - I'm jumping in with Boat Bling Threesome to start. Will report back.

***cool sidenote - I mentioned 303 Aerospace and he mentioned that one of their former heads is now an equity partner in Boat Bling after the sale of the company. All I needed to hear.
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Re: Vinyl & Gel Coat Maintenance

Post by jhnmdahl » Thu Aug 27, 2015 12:32 pm

I did some looking around at the various cleaners and protectants for marine vinyl, and a UV protectant at a minimum sounds like a good idea. The 303 stuff has a pretty good reputation, so it will be interesting to hear how you like the Boat Bling products relative to them.
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Re: Vinyl & Gel Coat Maintenance

Post by liquid » Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:09 pm

Time to revisit this as I've been using the Boat Bling products for a while now. Did a Major clean before i put her away for the winter. Wax. Pulled the carpets. Did all the vinyl.

Can't say enough. I'm not pitching their products and I used Maguire's for the wax but the vinyl and conditioning sauce - HOLY. looks brand new and very time anyone moves it the seats squeak like they're brand new.

I'm about to detail the whole boat again - will post pics when I'm done.
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Re: Vinyl & Gel Coat Maintenance

Post by Big Block Power » Fri Jun 03, 2016 5:55 pm

I have heard nothing but good things about boat bling. I use bio kleen products. All are bio degradable. Have had nothing but good luck with them. Boat polish this year was the first time with it and it was the easiest on and off polish I've ever used. So far no boat Scum to scrub off. Wash and wipe. There amazing cleaner for the interior is great. Keeps everything white and clean there conditioner protects very well. I have hull cleaner and window cleaner yet to use though. I have detail spray for minor clean up. I use starbrite canvas cleaner and water proof for the covers great stuff.
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Re: Vinyl & Gel Coat Maintenance

Post by liquid » Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:01 pm

Do you drop in every time you use the boat or do you have a wet/dry slip.

I do a combo of all three depending on the time of year. Curious about what everyone does with the water line at the end of the year to get that hull white again besides "dropped it off at the dealer"...
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Re: Vinyl & Gel Coat Maintenance

Post by Big Block Power » Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:15 am

I trailer it and dunk it every time. The longest it will stay in the water is maybe a few days if I'm on vacation for a week. If I get a scum line and if soap and water doesn't take it off I use hull cleaner. Starbrite hull cleaner worked great. I bought bio kleen hull cleaner for this year I'll see how that does. But a good coat of wax or polish helps a ton. So I do all my cleaning. Plus the boat is even covered in the garage to keep all the dust out.
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Re: Vinyl & Gel Coat Maintenance

Post by liquid » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:47 pm

i keep it covered in the garage as well, unless of course we're garage boating...

For the scum line i use The Works. A lot of people chime in on this but the facts are pretty simple. Some form of Oxacylic acid/Muriatic/or other acid is what people use to remove the line. Whether you pay more for something coded for Marine use or you go to the depot and get straight acid or Walmart for Toilet Bowl cleaner is your prerogative.

Just watch the stuff on your trailer - especially if it's galvanized.

BB - I am really curious about that Bio Kleen stuff on the hull though. There's a part I can't get to except for when it's on a lift but I'd never put Acid on it in the lake... Is that stuff safe to apply in the water?
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