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New to wake surfing and bought a 2023 R4 surf. After several weekends trying we still can’t to get a surfable wave. It always is washed out and short. Has anyone had better success with this and have any advice?

Are your surf gates deploying? Like you have looked over the edge and you can see them. We've had a few times when we forget to push surf left or surf right and we get that washed out wave. I'm wondering if maybe even though you have surf left or surf right engaged on the screen maybe the gate isn't deploying out? We have an R8S so not the same boat but we get a great wave, I'd imagine the R4 would be pretty close.

We do full ballast with 3 degrees on the outdrive and 11.5 mph and that gives us a really long nice wave with a great curl.

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So glad you found us GL4.

Most here have had success recently wake surfing behind the even numbered R series. The early adopter odd numbered R's had more issues.

Any pics?

And welcome aboard mate.

Thanks for the replies. Boat is up at the lake so I will double check that gates are fully deploying this weekend. It seems that without a full load of people the wave is much better but still difficult to the push we need. I'll update once I get in the water and inspect the gates!

Does your boat have auto trim on the throttle? When we go into surf mode the trim goes to 53% when auto trim is on, as soon as the boat starts the trim drops to 5% washing out the wave. Not sure if this is an issue on the new R series surfs.
Also keep guests out of the bow and seated in the stern.

Our R6 Surf makes a great wave. Unless your boat is full of people, fill all ballasts - it will give great push. We are generally empty in the bow so we go -5 degrees on the outdrive to help flatten the wave and find 10.8-11.5 mph is the best.

so --- did this ever improve? anyone else comment on r4 surf quality?